Hey colleagues, I'm trying to figure out the best listening level for training loudness difference perception (DB King). I noticed that when I practice at the same volume level, I memorize and recognize differences faster. However, when the track changes—especially if it's purchased with sound coins (some of them have different LUFS) — or if I forget to adjust my interface output to the same position as in the previous session, my accuracy drops significantly. That makes sense, as perception of loudness is relative.
So, what is the actual goal of this training? Should I aim to recognize loudness differences relative to a fixed listening level (e.g., the one I use for mixing, since pros recommend working at lower volumes)? Or is it better to develop the ability to perceive loudness differences across various listening levels?
Also, if the goal is to train perception across different levels, shouldn’t there be some kind of reference level stabilizer in Sound Gym? Ideally, there should also be an indicator of the reference signal's dBFS value, so we know what level we are guessing relative to and can precisely adjust our output level. Is there such a feature, or am I missing something?
I’d love to hear your thoughts and experiences on this!
I thought about that as well, for me I have decided to pick a level I usually mix in, to have a better reference. But I see your point of also gettig good at it at all kind of levels, especially for the early mixing process without a limiter.
Maybe first go for a fixed level and train the rest later on once that's setteled in well. I'd be curious though to get other opinions on this topic.
Bob Katz, one of the worlds most storied and vocal mastering engineers recommends calibrated monitoring. Similar to what you are saying- leaving your system at a consistent monitoring level every time. (you can either make a note or physically make a marker by your volume control.) However different styles require a different calibration position. Heavily compressed music mastered at a hotter level should be turned down to prevent ear fatigue. Pop, EDM, Modern Rock, Hiphop, could all have one or two calibration positions a few Db lower then less processed genres. I struggle with this as well. I think its probably best to spend the days practice on one specific track; repeating the game 5 or so times for reps.
yeah I try to adjust my output manually on my interface for each different Question. I try to establish my own listening level basically. I start on the loudest side (left-/right+) adjust to what sounds like my established level, so when I hit bypass it always goes down. Then I toggle back n forth a few times. It seems to help me get a gauge on it as you are saying.
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