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Tuomas Nikkinen
Feb 02, 2021
Hey!

Having just gotten to Diamond (finally!), I'd like to encourage others, and share how and why it happened for me. It's a bit (fine, a lot) longer post, but hopefully of some interest to some 😊.

I have seen people interested in game stats at different SPI levels, so I'll also share my current game stats. This is just to share one set of data on the game levels vs. SPI.

QUICK BACKGROUND

I'm a media composer, mainly film and TV, with some games and corporate music. For the bigger projects I work with, there is often a dedicated mix engineer. But for many others, I also do my own mixing. I've thought I have had decent listening skills, but recently realised.. I really didn't.

I started with SoundGym a few years ago. I think I got to about 18k points in a month of evening workouts, but sort of just forgot about it after a month. I do remember the frustration of not hearing things, already from then 😅.

MOTIVATION

Late December 2020, I invested in a private 1-on-1 live mix training session with a pro mix engineer from L.A. The thing that most blew my mind was the speed of his decisions. Especially the EQ decisions. Just listening for an individual mix track 3-4 seconds, and making the perfect EQ curve for it.

I wanted that too.

Having witnessed the incredible working speed, I set a goal of upping my critical listening game a lot. The SoundGym 30% discount was good timing, and I decided to invest work time to improve my listening.

So, I restarted SoundGym from my 18k points at the end of December 2020. A couple of intensive holiday days of gaming, I got to the ~40k Silver level. With that, I set a goal of having "Golden Ears" in 2021.

LISTENING GEAR

I've done all my exercises with headphones. From great planar-magnetic Oppo PM-1s, driven by very decent Apollo X6 converters/amps - to Apple Airpods. And some DT770 I got for our home piano.

How different it is? Not terribly. Some things are a bit easier to hear on different gear, but I just finished the latest workout with Airpods. In my case, the ears have been much more limiting than the listening gear - though I would've loved it NOT to be the case haha!

GETTING CARRIED AWAY

The training got a bit out of hand, and I ended up doing a few 6+ hour SoungGym days over holidays. With that, the "Golden Ears" goal of 2021 ended up taking only a few days. The SPI scaling is definitely not linear, I learned, so the points will increase a lot faster as the levels increase.

Those few days, it was a bit crazy though. My ears were so sore I couldn't even get my precious dosage of Mandalorian in the evening 😅.

The appetite grew further, and I changed my 2021 goal to the seemingly inhuman "Diamond Ears". It seemed ridiculously hard - I couldn't understand how these people really get to the 1000+k levels and above.

After the initial holiday crunch, I invested 2-3 hours each morning on SoundGym at my studio, for a few weeks.

As real work was piling, I reduced the time a bit. The best (and most sane) strategy for me was to spend 10 minutes on each daily workout game, and at the end another 10-20 mins on a single game I wanted to push to the next level. With a short break between each 10 minute session, to rest the ears (super helpful for me).

With that, it was some 20-40k daily SPI improvement on average. The SPI curve was looking like it might actually be possible to push to Diamond within January. There was also more internal pressure to progress, and days with slow progress were very frustrating.

I didn't reach the January goal, but did reach the (adjusted) 2021 goal within a month or so.

LOOKING BACK AND FORWARD

Was it worth the time investment and countless moments of frustration? I'm not sure, but I think it is. My listening has most definitely improved a lot. Especially being able to pinpoint audio phenomena more exactly.

For example, earlier I could hear something was "harsh in the upper frequency range". But it could have honestly been anything from 2kHz harsh to 8kHz harsh, I had to EQ sweep to try to find what was bugging.

After a crapload of listening training, I can separate pretty clearly the difference of 2kHz vs. 3kHz vs. 4kHz harshness, and often even the 500Hz ranges in-between. This is incredibly useful for my work.

The same for "bass frequencies". I honestly couldn't really separate the lows. If I wanted a "big bass", I'd often just boost 40Hz - as it's really low and that's how you get big bass, right (no, not really, of course..)? But I couldn't really clearly separate the different sound of 40Hz vs. 60Hz vs. 100Hz, and upwards up to the 400Hz. Now, I have significantly better sense of what each octave sounds like.

MOST USEFUL GAMES (FOR ME)

Avoiding any tips - as listening is such a personal endeavour - I'll list the games I find most useful for my work, as a media composer:

1) EQ Cheetah
I hated that game for sooooo long. Took forever to get even to the second level. Now it's the most useful EQ game for me. It provides a fast feedback cycle, building the internal model of what different frequencies sound like.

2) Bass Detective
I was happy to find this new game after my SoundGym restart, as I had realised I'm struggling identifying low frequencies. I also hated that game for a good while. Sometimes I still do, but it's improved my sense of low frequencies immensely.

3) Stereo Head (with PanGirl as runner-up).
This has surprisingly helped a lot in listening to reference music: where are different instruments panned, and how wide different elements sound like? And in general, how balanced mixes are built in the left-right -spectrum. Also, I often work with (virtual) orchestration, and it's a never-ending task to position instruments, so positioning skills help a lot.

Ok, sorry for the mega-long post! It's been a LOT of hours, and felt nice to have a bit of catharsis in the form of this post!

I still don't know how people get to the super-high SPI levels, so I guess that never changes. It was the same at 18k, it was the same at 250k, and it's most definitely the same at 1.300k haha!

PS. I still struggle at every single game (after the first two easy answers). Being consistent and sticking to a time-boxed plan has worked best for me. Wishing everybody the stamina to keep going 💪 !
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Tuomas Nikkinen
Feb 02, 2021
Current game stats (page 1)
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Tuomas Nikkinen
Feb 02, 2021
Current game stats (page 2)
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Ruud Reiher
Feb 02, 2021
congrats man and thanks for sharing... :)
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Tuomas Nikkinen
Feb 02, 2021
January crunch
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Stephen Gibson
Feb 02, 2021
I'm a media composer as well, and you're experience is exactly the same as mine. I too came from a 'the mix engineer will sort out all that" sort of attitude. SG is gradually changing all that. Well done on achieving diamond :)
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Jason Lorenzo
Feb 02, 2021
Thank you for taking the time to write all of that out for us Tuomas. Very nice to hear that we are not alone in this journey. It is nice to be reminded that we all have similar difficulties and the best way to overcome is still perseverance. Have a great day and good luck to you and reaching your goals.
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Andrew Robson
Feb 02, 2021
Thanks for your insights! Very helpful to a noob such as myself.
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Jon BenG
Feb 02, 2021
Very inspirational / motivational. I'm now re-defining my goals after reading / seeing all this:) Thank you!
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Jose Hurtado
Feb 02, 2021
I just found SoundGym a few weeks back and reading your post really made me realize this is the right path. I am looking to improve my mixing skills and start doing it in a more professional way. Still a long way in front of me but thank you for the inspiration!
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Noam Gingold
Feb 02, 2021
Thanks for sharing @Tuomas Nikkinen, 'your path to the diamond' was a very interesting reading.
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Tuomas Nikkinen
Feb 02, 2021
Thanks for the kind comments 😊 ! If a single person is more motivated or determined, it was worth the writing time!

Also, as somebody who has spent way too much on samples and mixing plugins (thinking they would make the music sound reeeeally good), I definitely recommend spending the next "must-have" plugin money on ear training instead.

Doesn't matter how many gazillion plugins one has. If the ears are not working well enough, it is like a surgeon having the best available tools - and a horrible eyesight 😄.
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Stephen Craig
Feb 02, 2021
👍 (Thank you!)
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Simon L
Feb 02, 2021
Congrats! This is quite encouraging as I'm an electronic music artist so probably in a similar boat to you, as in I'm not an aspiring mix engineer but I want to be more fast and effective at mixing/processing so it helps my creative ideas shine and doesn't take lots of time and trial & error. I normally just do 15-30 minutes per day of Soundgym workouts since I aim to spend most of my studio time actually working on tracks, plus some work on other elements e.g. sound design.
I've made steady progress but I'm still quite far from being fast at identifying problem frequencies etc like you describe. So maybe it's time for a crunch soon...
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Wow! Very inspiring and interesting read, thanks for sharing. And congrats on your achievement. This definately motivated me. Especially since I've sometimes felt like I'm wasting my time on here. But the grind must go on. My goal is gold, if I can get that i'll be pretty happy. I have one question for you however, since you seem to have put a lot of thought into all of this. Do you think that this is a skill that will be retained even if you stop doing workouts for a while? Or will you after 3 weeks of no gym be back at say gold lvl ears? Just something that has worried me a bit.
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Also wtf, in the text it seems like you've been going at this for soooo long, but you reached diamond ears in only 54 workouts, that is so insane!!
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Tuomas Nikkinen
Feb 02, 2021
@Izadjan Klaar Narinbaiev Took way over 2000 games though! And most workouts took a good 3 hours, with some workouts at 6+ hours. So timewise I’d estimate a good 100+ hours for the crunch.

And a few years back, I think it was a few weeks of slightly less insane evening training to get from zero to the 18k. I do remember trying hard then as well, but lost the momentum and forgot about the whole thing 😅.
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That is true, right after commenting I realized 1 of your workouts is like... 12 of mine haha. good work, you should share your secrets in not getting frustrated haha
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Tuomas Nikkinen
Feb 02, 2021
@Izadjan Klaar Narinbaiev On retaining the skill. I suspect a good part sticks, and some precision would be lost without at least maintaining practice.

I sometimes get still lost at times, and the ears don’t seem to work at all. Some tired evenings, for example, totally lost on absolute frequency detection. A couple of embarrassed EQ Cheetah rounds usually help calibrate the ears.

So in short, don’t know yet, let’s see 😄 !
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Ezra Lipp
Feb 02, 2021
Thanks for sharing your journey! It's inspiring for someone relatively new!
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Tutanch Stevenson
Feb 03, 2021
crazy!! thanks
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amilwhat ?
Feb 03, 2021
Are you a publicity bot? LOL just kidding. I like the target goal orientation of Sound and Tone gyms. I'm WAY out of practice, but definitely can tell a difference when I take a break after a few weeks. I've recently redoubled my efforts to what I can fit in. Can't do hours a day but every little bit seems to be helping. Reviewing with the learning portions as I actually have a music degree that I have used less and less as time goes by. Small steps. Thanks for the post. I have been struggling with some games more than others and like the different suggestions that get posted. Good community.
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Sairo Santos
Feb 03, 2021
Level 35 on EQ Cheetah?! That's crazy, man. Congrats! If only I could beat level 12...
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Raymond RUTJES
Sep 12, 2021
Thanks for sharing, really inspiring. Do you exercise on different tracks or always lets say piano or guitar? I guess for EQ cheetah you have your favorite? What about other exercises? Do you get rewarded for picking other instruments?
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Elias N Jaquez
Sep 12, 2021
Thank you for sharing your journey. It's very interesting seeing how different people approach this website. I'm glad to know that it's a continual journey, not really a destination.
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J.D. van der Meer
Sep 12, 2021
Wauw what a story bro, this is very inspiring, my work plan is similar, but you have given me a lot of good tips. So now I can improve my work plan. Thanks for sharing your story. And good luck with future improvements 🙏
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Levi Matthews
Oct 27, 2021
Thank you! You’ve given me inspiration to grind harder excellent info and very nice reading this. I feel I’m in a good place here with like minded individuals. It’s inspiring and gives me drive to improve my skills. I can’t wait for the holidays :) - Levi
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Łukasz Sobczyk
Oct 27, 2021
Thanks for good and inspirational words!
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Craig Sheffield
Oct 27, 2021
Nice story. Keep it up and hope to listen to your work sometime. Please share.
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S F
Oct 27, 2021
Thanks for the feedback, very interesting and motivating
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Anju Laren
Oct 27, 2021
thanks for sharing!
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ALEX INFANTI
Oct 27, 2021
Thanks!!!!
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Álef Anguiano
Oct 27, 2021
thanks for your words ! and sharing your experience!Very Helpful and Motivating. A entertaining path incoming. 😁
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Jonathan G
Oct 27, 2021
motivating !!
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Ford Giesbrecht
Oct 27, 2021
thanks for taking the time. This is useful and encouraging, since sometimes I think I'm the only one having these same struggles. I get frustrated because one day I can hear everything and the next it seems I couldn't identify a doorbell.
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Bob Dogz
Jul 11, 2023
Don't know why this post came up in my thread but definitely needed that after getting hell from doctor compressor. Thanks !
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John Miller
Jul 12, 2023
Nice write-up, Tuomas N, no one has ever gone into that kind of detail of their own SoundGym journey,

For me, I hated EQ Cheetah in my early days, way before Diamond, maybe even pre-Gold, so I unchecked it in Gym - workout preferences and never played it. Later, just before Diamond, I revisited it and found it a lot easier to play. So much so, that I binge-played it, gaining levels and SPI at a rapid pace to finally get over the hump to earn Diamond.

Now I'm back to unchecking EQ Cheetah, because it is now impossible to beat (I used up all my easy levels.) Maybe I'll find it easy again some day, but, based on last time I played it, not yet. For the Stats-curious, my current EQ Cheetah Level: 41, EQ Cheetah Percentile: 98.27. Overall Sound Gym Percentile: 99.7. At the point that I past Diamond, then SPI = 1.3M, my SPI/games played was 472.

But the point is my EQ Cheetah experience, finding it too hard in the beginning, but later revisiting it again in my run-up to and past Diamond, proved something to me: Sound Gym had improved my EQ skills over the many months I had used it.
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Pete Widin
Apr 23
Very helpful, and inspiring to keep going each day. Thanks!
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Tuomas!
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Jazzy Tea
Apr 24
Awesome summary, man! For me, this was all pure fun; the real struggle started with watching 100hrs of tutorial videos to get the Certified Member badge 🤣
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Mike Benza
Apr 24
Thanks for sharing your thoughts mate, super inspiring, specially for the people beginning here. In my case never struggle too much with the Diamond Ears Award, it just came out naturally after some consistent progress. I am glad you achieve it! Kudos for your post, and your great progress here!